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    Lia Fail - Jacob's "Stone of Destiny"

    The Stone of Destiny
    by Rev. Bertrand L. Comparet, A.B., J.D. (1901-1983)

    In the Coronation Chair in Westminster Abbey in London is an oblong block of sandstone, upon which all of England's kings have been crowned for several centuries--and before that, the kings of Scotland, and before them the kings of Ireland. This is another bit of evidence of the identity of the Anglo-Saxon people as the Israel of the Bible, and that the House of David still rules over them.

    The history of this stone begins in the 28th chapter of Genesis, where we read that Jacob camped overnight in a field, and for his pillow used a stone with his folded cloak over it. During the night, God appeared to him in a vision, and promised to give him the Land of Canaan. When Jacob awoke, he said, "this is the house of God," and named the place Beth-el, meaning "House of God." Then he took the stone he had used as his pillow and set it up as a monument, and dedicated it with an offering of oil. He promised that, if God would help him, "then shall the Lord be my God: and this stone which I have set for a monument shall be God's house."

    In Genesis 34, God instructs him to go back to Bethel and set up an altar to God, which Jacob did. It was at this time that God changed Jacob's name to Israel; and Israel again set up and dedicated as a monument of witness the stone pillar which he had dedicated as "God's house." Its sacred character was now firmly established.

    We next find mention of it in Genesis 49, when the aged Israel, before he dies, tells his 12 sons what will befall their respective descendants in the last days. Speaking of Joseph, he says, "From thence is the shepherd of the Stone of Israel." We should, therefore, expect to find the Stone in custody of the sons of Joseph in the last days. The English are the Tribe of Ephraim, descended from one of Joseph's sons. Its sacred character having been established, the stone would not be thereafter abandoned.

    We next hear of it when the Children of Israel, in their exodus from Egypt, were facing death by thirst in the desert. God instructed Moses, "I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink"; thus they were saved from death. This miracle was repeated later, but this time Moses was instructed merely to speak to the rock, not strike it; because Moses disobeyed God and hit the rock in a "grandstand play" before the people, he was not allowed to enter the Promised Land. We must not think that this rock was merely the native rock cliffs of these desert places, for in 1 Corinthians 10: 1-4, Paul says "all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea ... and did all drink the same spiritual drink, for they drank of that spiritual Rock THAT FOLLOWED THEM, and that Rock was Christ. " That is, they were given water to drink from a rock which was carried along with them; and as Israel had said, "this stone which I have set up for a monument shall be God's house," so Christ hallowed it with His presence.

    After Joshua had conquered the Promised Land and divided it among the 12 Tribes, he reminded them that they must ever be loyal to God, and he set up a stone as a monument of witness to this warning; the Hebrew says he took "the stone of greatness" --and what would that be, or what more fitting witness could there be, but the stone which was "God's house"?

    Before God ever allowed Israel to have a king, the rebel Abimelech had himself crowned king beside this pillar or monument (Judges 9: 6). Later, when the lawful monarchy was established in the House of David, we find it was the custom that the king be crowned standing by the "pillar" or monument, for we read in 2 Kings 11: 12-14, "And he brought forth the king's son and put the crown upon him, and gave him the testimony; and they made him king, and annointed him; and they clapped their hands and said, God save the king. And when Athaliah heard the noise of the guard and of the people, she came to the people into the Temple of the Lord. And when she looked, behold, the king stood hy a pillar, as the manner was and the princes and the trumpeters by the king, and all the people of the land rejoiced. "

    The Stone had become a sacred relic, a witness of the mutual promises of God and of the Children of Israel. It would be found close to the Temple and the throne. Upon the fall of Jerusalem to the Babylonians under Nebuchadnezzar, 2 Maccabees 2: 4-8 says that ancient records stated that Jeremiah had taken the Ark of the Covenant and the Tabernacle and had hidden them in a cave on Mount Nebo.

    While 1 Samuel 4-5 records the capture of the Ark by the Philistines, and its return, there is no mention of it being taken by the Babylonians, so the ancient record of the Ark being hidden must be correct. Along with the Ark, we may be sure that Jeremiah would also safely hide the sacred Witness Stone, "God's house," which had twice been used to give water to the people to save them from death, and which was now used in the coronation of the kings.

    When I spoke to you on "What Jeremiah Planted," I told you how Jeremiah and the daughters of the last King of Judah, Zedekiah, were taken to Egypt with the refugees; but in order to fulfill God's prophecy that Jeremiah was also "to build and to plant," Jeremiah had to leave Egypt and take the princess to where another Israelite kingdom was then in existence--in Ireland. We know that with Jeremiah went Baruch, his scribe, and the king's daughter; and with the princess, he would also certainly take the hidden Stone upon which the kings were crowned.

    The ancient Irish records record the coming of "the Great Prophet," "Brugh" his scribe (obviously Baruch), and the daughter of a king, about 583 B.C., which would be the correct date; and that with them they brought the "Wonderful Stone," or "Stone of Destiny." In one of our congregations is a woman whose family genealogy shows that one of their ancestors came to Ireland with Jeremiah, and that this ancestor's duty was that of custodian of the Stonel Tea Tephi, the king's daughter, married Eochaidh the Heremon, or Chief King, of Ireland.

    The stone, called "Lia Fail" or "Stone of Destiny" was kept at the capital city of Tara for some three centuries, and all the kings, descendants of Eochaidh and Tea Tephi, were crowned on it. Then, about 350 B.C., it was sent to Scotland for the coronation of Fergus, King of Scots, who was a descendant of the Milesian kings of Ireland. It remained in Scotland, and all Scottish kings were crowned on it, until 1297 A.D. when King Edward I of England invaded Scotland and captured the Stone, which he took to England, where it was placed in Westminster Abbey, its home ever since that date. It was built into the Coronation Chair--the oldest piece of furniture in England still serving its original purpose--and all English kings have been crowned on it ever since.

    Its origin was well known during the entire time it has been in the British Isles, and from practically the first it was called "Jacob's Stone. " William of Rislanger, writing in the 13th century, records the coronation of John de Baliol as King of Scotland in the year 1292 "upon the stone upon which Jacob placed his head. "

    While the ten-tribed nation of Israel had to "abide many days without a king" as God prophesied in Hosea 3: 4, yet there must always be a royal family of David's line on the throne over some Israelite people, for God promised through Jeremiah (33: 17) that "David shall never lack a man to sit upon the throne of the House of Israel."

    We know that Eochaidh the Heremon was of the Milesian line of Kings of Ireland, and that the Milesians in Ireland were descendants of Zarah, a son of Judah; and that Tea Tephi was a descendant of David, who was also of the Royal Tribe of Judah through Judah's son, Pharez. So the two royal lines of Judah were united with the marriage of Eochaidh and Tea Tephi, and a descendant of David was always on the throne over Israelite people, as God had promised.

    The Ark of the Covenant belonged in the Temple; and the Temple was not to be a continuous institution like the Throne of David; so it is not surprising that the Ark has disappeared from history, and probably will not be revealed again until Jesus Christ returns to reign upon the Throne of David, as is prophesied in Isaiah 9: 7.

    But the Throne was to be a continuous throne (Jeremiah 33: 17); therefore, it is only logical that the Coronation Stone, which the Hebrews had called "The Stone of Majesty" and "The Pillar of Witness," should be found where the Throne of David had its continued existence. After all, it was "The Pillar of Witness" for it had been made witness to both Israel's promise to be God's People and God's promise to be their God. It should be there, as a witness that God always makes good His promises, and "David shall never lack a man to sit upon the Throne of the House of Israel."



    Bertrand L. Comparet was a native Californian, born in San Diego. He was graduated from Stanford University with the degree of Bachelor of Arts and Juris Doctor. He was admitted to the California Supreme Court or California Bar in 1926 and by the United States Supreme Court in 1956. From 1926 to 1932 he was a Deputy District Attorney in San Diego County and from 1942 to 1947 was Deputy City Attorney for the City of San Diego. Since that time he has been in private law practice. Pastor Bertrand L. Comparet started teaching in 1933 and continued for over 40 years. He returned to the Father in August of 1983. If you do an Internet search on "Bertrand Comparet" you will find many of his sermons.
    EDITORIAL NOTE

    Subsequent to the time when Dr. Comparet delivered the foregoing address, Mr. E. Raymond Capt, author of "The Glory of the Stars," "Great Pyramid Decoded," and other writings, stated that new evidence, recently discovered, indicates that the transfer of the throne of David from Palestine to Europe may have been accomplished in a different manner than what is commonly believed.

    According to the older tradition, the daughters of Zedekiah were Tamar Tephi (known to her family and friends as Tea Tephi or Tea), and her younger sister, Scota; and this Tamar Tephi, or Tea, was married to Eochaidh in Ireland. The new evidence mentioned by Mr. Capt is discussed on pages 6465 of his book, "King Solomon's Temple," in which he quotes Ezekiel 17. 22, which says: "Thus saith the Lord God; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar, and will set it; I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one, and will plant it upon an high mountain and eminent." Mr. Capt then says: "This was fulfilled when Scota, King Zedekiah's daughter (the tender twig), was taken to Egypt by Jeremiah and then to Spain where she married 'ane Greyk callit Gathelus, son of Cecrops of Athens, King of Argives' (The Chronicles of Scotland by Hector Boece). In due time a son was born and was named 'Eochaidh' (Eremhon or King).

    "There is a tradition that when Jeremiah brought Scota to Spain, he also brought the 'stone' upon which Jacob laid his head, at Bethel, when he had the vision of a ladder extending to heaven (Gen. 28: 12-19). This -was the 'stone' used as a Coronation Stone in Solomon's Temple. Second Kings 11: 11-14 tells of the anointing of a king, after which all the men around the king 'clapped their hands' and said, 'God save the King' while 'the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was, and the princes and the trumpeters by the kin ."

    'From the 'Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters,' we find the following statement: 'Tea, the daughter of Loghaldh, son of Ith, whom Eremhon married in Spain was the Tea who requested of Eremhon a choice hill as her dower, in whatever place she should select it, that she might be interred therein. The hill she selected was Druimcaein, i.e. Teamhair (in Ireland)' (Vol. 1, pg. 31).

    "This is only one of many historical records that place, not only Tea in Ireland, but her husband Eochaidh, 'the Heremon' (chief or King). At this same time there appeared, with Eochaidh (brought by Dedannans and set up at Tara as the inauguration stone of Irish Kings - Encyclopedia Britannica 14th ed.) a stone of red sandstone, a type found in Palestine. It had iron rings fastened at each end which could have been used for porter poles. The stone became known by the name 'Lia Fail' and 'Stone of Destiny.' It is not unlikely that Jacob's Stone and the 'Stone of Destiny' were one and the same. " By whatever course the throne of David may have been carried to Europe, it is nevertheless a fact that it was eventually transferred to Ireland, then Scotland, and then England.

    For more on this subject an excellent resource is Jacob's Pillar - A Biblical Historical Study by E. Raymond Capt. I got my copy from Kingdom Identity Ministries, but it's widely available. Capt offers a video on the subject as well.

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    Adam to Elizabeth II
    The descendants of Adam to Queen Elizabeth II

    There are of course many lines that could be followed from Adam to Elizabeth but this one is chosen to emphasize the line of David, King of Israel. We follow Bible genealogy from Adam to Tamar, daughter of Zedekiah then we pick on Irish history to complete the lineage.

    1. Adam (4004-3074)
    2. Seth (3874-2962)
    3. Enos (3769-2864)
    4. Cainan (3679-2769)
    5. Mehalaleel (3609-2714)
    6. Jarad (3544-2582)
    7. Enoch (3382-3017)
    8. Methuselah (3317-2348)
    9. Lamech (3130-2353)
    10. Noah (2948-1998)
    11. Shem (2448-1848)
    12. Arphxd (2341-2093)
    13. Salah (2306-1873)
    14. Heber (2276-1812)
    15. Peleg (2242-2003)
    16. Reu (2212-1973)
    17. Serug (2180-1950)
    18. Nahor (2150-1950)
    19. Terah (2121-1916)
    20. Abram (Abraham)
    21. Isaac
    22. Jacob (Israel)
    23. Judah
    24. Pharez
    25. Ezram
    26. Aram
    27. Aminadab
    28. Nashon
    29. Salmon
    30. Boaz
    31. Obed
    32. Jesse
    33. David King Of Israel* (1009-)
    34. Solomon King Of Israel (- 969)
    35. Rehaboem King H. Of Judah
    36. Abijah King H. Of Judah
    37. Asa King H. Of Judah
    38. Jehosophat King H. Of Judah
    39. Jehoram King H. Of Judah
    40. Ahaziah King H. Of Judah
    41. Joash King H. Of Judah
    42. Uzziah (Or Asariah) King H. Of Judah (- 753)
    43. Jotham King H. Of Judah
    44. Ahaz King H. Of Judah
    45. Hezekiah King H. Of Judah
    46. Amon King H. Of Judah
    47. Josiah King H. Of Judah
    48. Zedekiah King H. Of Judah
    49. Tamar (Tea Tephi) Queen
    Jeremiah, the prophet, left Israel with the two princess daughters of Zedekiah. They went to Egypt and then sailed to Ireland. The ancient records of Ireland bear ample testament to this as an historic fact, not only the event itself but also supplying evidence by giving the actual date of their arrival, as shown below. With the authenticity of these Irish records it is interesting to note that Sir James McIntosh, writing on ancient Irish history, says: ---The Irish nation possesses genuine history several centuries more ancient than any other European nation possesses in its present spoken language." These Irish records tell of a ship of the "Iberian Danaan" (Hebrew Dan-ites of the shipping tribe of Dan) becoming wrecked at Carrickfergus off the north east coast of Ireland. They also state that in this ship there was not only a Royal Princess but also a man referred to as "Ollamh Fodlila" meaning Holy Seer or Prophet accompanied by his servant "Bruch"; and that this shipwrecked party had in their possession an historic stone called "LIA FAIL" meaning Stone wonderful which they very highly treasured. The records conclude with an account of the marriage between the Royal Princess and "Eochaidh" the Heremon or King of Ireland, giving the Princess's name as "Tamar Tephi" meaning Palm Beautiful, an appropriate name for the one destined to fulfill Ezekiel's prophecy of the Tender Twig.

    The royal records state that Ollamh Fodhla preceded King Cimboath of Ulster by 230 years. The latter is generally accepted as having died in the year B.C. 353; thus 230 years earlier gives a date of B.C. 583/2. B.C. 583-582 is the exact Scriptural date of Jeremiah's flight into Egypt after the downfall of Jerusalem.
    50. Ugaine The Great
    51. Angus The Prolific
    52. Fiachra King Of Scots
    53. Fergus I King Of Scots
    54. Manius King Of Scots
    55. Dornadil King Of Scots
    56. Reuthar King Of Scots
    57. Edera King Of Scots
    58. Corbred I King Of Scots
    59. Corbred II King Of Scots
    60. Modha Lamha King Of Scots
    61. Conaire II King Of Scots
    62. Corbrad Dalraida King Of Scots
    63. Eochaid (Or Etholdus) King Of Scots
    64. Athirco King Of Scots
    65. Finfacher King Of Scots
    66. Thrinklind King Of Scots
    67. Fincormach King Of Scots
    68. Romiach King Of Scots
    69. Angus King Of Scots
    70. Eochaidh King Of Scots
    71. Erc (Or Erth) King Of Scots
    72. Fergus The Great
    73. Dangard King Of Scots
    74. Govran King Of Scots
    75. Aydan King Of Scots
    76. Eugene King Of Scots
    77. Donald
    78. Ethdre King Of Scots
    79. Ethafind King Of Scots
    80. Ethas King Of Scots
    81. Alpin King Of Scots
    82. KENNETH I, K of Scots (- 859)
    83. CONSTANTINE I, K of Scots (- 877)
    84. DONALD II, K of Scots (- 900)
    85. MALCOLM I, K of Scots (- 954)
    86. KENNETH II, K of Scots (- 995)
    87. MALCOLM II, K of Scots ( 954-1034)
    88. Bethoc of Scotland
    89. DUNCAN I, King Of Scots (-1040)
    90. MALCOLM III, K of Scots (1031-1093)
    91. Mary of Scotland (-1118)
    92. MATILDA, C of Boulogne, Q Consort (1105-1152)
    93. Mary, C of Boulogne (-1180)
    94. Matilda of Boulogne (-1211)
    95. Henry II, D of Brabant (1207-1248)
    96. Henry III, D of Brabant (-1261)
    97. MARIE of Brabant, Q Consort (1256-1321)
    98. MARGARET of France, Q Consort (1275-1317)
    99. Edmund, E of Kent (1301-1330)
    100. Joan, L Wake (1328-1385)
    101. Thomas de HOLAND, E of Kent KG (1350-1397)
    102. Eleanor (I) HOLAND* (-1405)
    103. Anne de MORTIMER (1390-1411)
    104. Richard PLANTAGENET, D of York KG (1411-1460)
    105. Edward IV King Of England (1442-1483)
    106. Elizabeth of_York (1466-1503)
    107. Margaret Tudor* (1489-1541)
    108. James_V King of Scotland* (1512-1542)
    109. Mary Stuart Queen of Scots* (1542-1587)**
    110. James_I Stuart King of England (1566-1625)
    111. Elizabeth Stuart (1596-1662)
    112. Sophia Hanover (1630-1714)
    113. George_I Hanover King of England (1660-1727)
    114. George_II Hanover King of England (1683-1760)
    115. Anne Hanover Princess Royal (1709-1759)
    116. Caroline (1743-1787)
    117. Henriette
    118. Alexander of_Wurttemberg Duke (1804-1885)
    119. Francis Duke of Teck (1837-1900)
    120. Mary_of_Teck (May) Queen (1867-1953)
    121. George_VI Windsor King of England (1895-1952)
    122. Elizabeth_II Alexandra Mary Windsor Queen of England (1926-)

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    The Scots were once well-aware of their Israelitish heritage as witnessed in the Scottish Declaration of Independence!

    In Arbroath Abbey, following the removal of the "Stone of Destiny" to Westminster, king Robert "the Bruce" of Scotland was visited by two emissaries of pope John 22 to whom Edward 2 of England had appealed for help to compel Scotland to acknowledge England's lordship. These emissaries bore a message from the pope advising Bruce to submit to Edward's claims, but Bruce and his nobles drafted a letter which they addressed to pope John 22 and which can still be seen in Register House in Edinburgh. It had attached to it coloured ribbons and seals with the signatures of Robert the Bruce and twenty-five of his nobles. The letter which is drafted:- April 6, 1320, read in part:-

    "We know Most Holy Father and Lord, and from the chronicles and books of the ancients gather, that among other illustrious nations, our's, to wit, the nation of the Scots, has been distinguished by many honours; which passing from the greater Sythia through the Mediterranean Sea and Pillars of Hercules (Gibraltar) and sojourning in Spain (Iberia - Heberia - the Hebrew's land) among most savage tribes through a long course of time, could nowhere be subjugated by any people however barbarous; and coming thence one thousand two hundred years after the outgoing of the People of Israel (the Exodus), they by many victories and infinite toil, acquired for themselves the possessions in the West which they now hold........In their kingdom one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal stock, no stranger intervening, have reigned...."

    For so long as a hundred of us are left alive we will yield in no least way to English domination. We fight not for glory, nor for wealth nor honour, but only and alone for freedom, which no man surrenders but with his life."


    This letter thus asserts that the Scots who had the "Stone of Destiny" ("Lia Fail") were connected with the ancient people of Israel (the ten so-called Lost Tribes); whom archaeology has established became the Scythians and the Cimmerians of history, whose origin had been a mystery. Lost to their true identity as foretold in The Scriptures, (Romans 11:25), the Israelites migrated to their appointed place (2 Samuel 7:10); some crossing Europe by land, others by ships through the Mediterranean to the coast-lands of Europe and the Isles in the West. The Scots claim ancestry to the branch of the Cimmerians (Celts) that dwelt in Spain for a period, and eventually came over to the Islands of Britain. They also claim that their royal line of kings (from Judah/Zarah of the Red hand - Genesis 38:30) has remained unbroken throughout their migrations.

    Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness (as to their true identity) is happened to part of Israel (the ten "lost" tribes - the House of Israel), until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    2 Samuel 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime.


    Josephus, the historian, writing in A.D. 70, seems to have had knowledge of the migrations of most of the Israelites from Asia toward Europe, for, in his "Antiquities of the Jews" he writes: "...wherefore there are but two tribes in Asia and Europe subject to the Romans, while the ten tribes are beyond the Euphrates till now (A.D. 70) and are an immense multitude, and not to be estimated by numbers" (book 11, chap. 5).

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    The Gospel of Mary (Part #04) details the Traditions of Glastonbury by examining the hymn "Jerusalem" written by the poet William Blake. We further expand upon the "ensign" of Joseph's budding staff by comparing it to the Hawthorn Tree in Glastonbury Abbey, England. This sermon also points out many similarities of the angel Gabriel's annunciation of Christ in this Gnostic text to Luke's Gospel.

    http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/a...spelmary04.mp3

    (mp3 / 9.15 mb)

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    Edward Perronet (1726-1792) - Coronation

    All hail the pow’r of Jesus’ Name!
    Let angels prostrate fall;
    Bring forth the royal diadem,
    And crown Him Lord of all;
    Bring forth the royal diadem,
    And crown Him Lord of all.

    Let highborn seraphs tune the lyre,
    And as they tune it, fall
    Before His face Who tunes their choir,
    And crown Him Lord of all;
    Before His face Who tunes their choir,
    And crown Him Lord of all.

    Crown Him, ye martyrs of your God,
    Who from His altar call;
    Extol the Stem of Jesse’s Rod,
    And crown Him Lord of all;
    Extol the Stem of Jesse’s Rod,
    And crown Him Lord of all.

    Ye seed of Israel’s chosen race,
    Ye ransomed from the fall,
    Hail Him Who saves you by His grace,
    And crown Him Lord of all;
    Hail Him Who saves you by His grace,
    And crown Him Lord of all.

    Let every tribe and every tongue
    Before Him prostrate fall,
    And shout in universal song
    The crowned Lord of all;
    And shout in universal song
    The crowned Lord of all.

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    Traditions of Glastonbury - E Raymond Capt

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    How the Irish Saved Civilization

    This is a fascinating audio book, read by Liam Neeson, which details how Irish Israelites preserved the classic literature of our race during the Middle Ages.



    In this delightful and illuminating look into a crucial but little known "hinge" of history, Thomas Cahill takes us to the "island of saints and scholars," the Ireland of St. Patrick and the Book of Kells. Here, far from the barbaric wars that plagued the European continent, Ireland's monks and scribes laboriously and lovingly preserved the written treasury of the West. Many great pieces of Greek and Roman literature, almost sure to be lost in the chaos of the Middle Ages, were saved by the monks of Ireland. This brilliant audio edition of the bestselling book is read by acclaimed actor Liam Neeson.

    In this delightful and illuminating look into a crucial but little-known "hinge" of history, Thomas Cahill takes us to the "island of saints and scholars," the Ireland of St. Patrick and the Book of Kells. Here, far from the barbarian despoliation of the continent, monks and scribes laboriously, lovingly, even playfully preserved the West's written treasury. When stability returned in Europe, these Irish scholars were instrumental in spreading learning, becoming not only the conservators of civilization, but also the shapers of the medieval mind, putting their unique stamp on Western culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prakazrel View Post


    The Gospel of Mary (Part #04) details the Traditions of Glastonbury by examining the hymn "Jerusalem" written by the poet William Blake. We further expand upon the "ensign" of Joseph's budding staff by comparing it to the Hawthorn Tree in Glastonbury Abbey, England. This sermon also points out many similarities of the angel Gabriel's annunciation of Christ in this Gnostic text to Luke's Gospel.

    http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/a...spelmary04.mp3

    (mp3 / 9.15 mb)
    This sermon is already dated. It looks like some prick chopped down the Hawthorn Tree...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101210/...tain_holy_tree

    LONDON – British police were searching Friday for vandals who chopped down a thorn tree venerated for centuries by Christians.

    The Glastonbury Holy Thorn Tree, said to have links to the earliest days of Christianity in England, has been reduced to a six-foot stump by vandals who sawed off its limbs.

    The desecration happened the night after a sprig from the tree was cut off in a ceremony so it could be given to Queen Elizabeth II to decorate her Christmas table, said Glastonbury Mayor John Coles.

    Coles believes the traditional ceremony may have sparked a backlash.

    "Whether the person responsible for the deed saw the ceremony on local television or witnessed it, it's rather a coincidence that it was done that same night," he said. "We don't know whether it's one person responsible or a group."

    Coles said the cutting ceremony usually involves the oldest child at a local nursery and the local vicar and mayor. The queen always sends a letter of thanks, he added.

    Glastonbury, 125 miles (200 kilometers) west of London, is best known for its annual rock music festival that has drawn artists such as Bruce Springsteen since the 1960s.

    Religious tradition holds that the original tree was planted by St. Joseph of Arimathea — the wealthy merchant who volunteered his tomb to Jesus — after he first made landfall in England some 2,000 years ago. The chopped-down tree is thought to be descended from the original and sprouted on Wearyall Hill in Glastonbury.

    "The story goes that Joseph of Arimathea pushed his staff into the ground and pronounced it to be weary — that's why it's known as Wearyall Hill," said Coles. "The tree is said to have grown from the staff. It's something you can't prove or disprove."

    Many pilgrims have left offerings at the base of the tree over the years.

    Katherine Gorbing, the director of Glastonbury Abbey, said there is some hope the tree may recover.

    "We're very hopeful that it will grow back," she said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101210/...tain_holy_tree

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